Thoughts?

Aug. 25th, 2005 06:20 am
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I am writing a section now from General Hammond's point of view.

So is he George? Hammond? Gen. Hammond?

For instance, here we have the obligatory infirmary scene, where Jack is waking up for the first time de-goa'uld'ed. (Um. Yeah. That's a word.) Anyway, this is what it looks like when I write it from Jack's POV:

    "We don't know that for a fact, Colonel," General Hammond replied quietly.

    "Oh, he's dead, General. I gave the order to his First Prime myself. They shoved him out into space with ten mintues' of air."

    "Daniel's dead."

    General Hammond just shook his head.


But from Hammond's own POV?

    "We don't know that for a fact, Colonel," George replied quietly.

    "Oh, he's dead, General. I gave the order to his First Prime myself. They shoved him out into space with ten mintues' of air."

    "Daniel's dead."

    George just shook his head.


Do you see what I'm getting at? Usually when I write from one character's POV, even though I almost always write in the third person, I still feel like a tight POV is more intimate to the character, and should reflect what would go on inside that character's head. So Gen. Hammond, from his own POV ought to think of himself as himself, right? And that is not necessarily all caught up in the General business. I have no problem writing Jack as Jack, rather than Col. O'Neill... Just feels all weird to type George.

Hmmmm. Maybe I'll write it one way, see what people think in the feedback, then do a big revision if it doesn't work...

Heh. Now I want to post an inspirational picture of George, but it would take forever to find one download it, upload it, blah, blah... Eheheheh. Is there a [livejournal.com profile] hammond_daily? *snickers*

EDIT: OMG! Loving my new icons! Look at Jack and Daniel! They are listening so attentively to my musings about what to call George! Thought they both look like they might be *right* on the edge of exasperation! Tee hee!

Date: 2005-08-25 12:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cocoajava.livejournal.com
Hmmm. MY gut reaction is to stick with General Hammond. Even though he wouldn't call himself that, he ALSO wouldn't refer to himself as George. He just wouldn't refer to himself by any name, he's just THE BRAIN inside himself thinkin'.

So, the name-reference is for the convenience of the readers, who have already gotten used to seeing and hearing Gen. Hammond.

Ooooh, now you icon is listening attentively to me! And I think they are saying She's so on crack We Agree!

But which she?

Date: 2005-08-25 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
When they say "she" are they referring to you or to me?

Hey, that rhymes!

Yes, I already had the same thought you had that he doesn't think of himself by any name.

Still... I'm writing it with George just to try it out. But I may fall back to your position in the end. I think you are right and that's what's causing my problem, but I think I am right that it's weird to write a tight POV from his perspective and still refer to him as General.

Might try a rewrite with him as simply Hammond. *ponders*

Date: 2005-08-25 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com
Good question. What sounds right to me is just Hammond. No way from his POV would he be "General" -- definitely. I don't know why George is weird, but it is. Yeah, Hammond works for me.

Lookee what I did. Couldn't resist iconing. They don't have the pondering look your icon does, though. ;-)

Loving your icon

Date: 2005-08-26 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
No, they are not being all serious and attentive. They are instead making googly eyes at each other. And apparently whining. Hmmmmm. Speaking of touchstones. :p

I think in the end I'm probably going to change it all to Hammond. But remains to be seen. Perhaps will leave as George and alarm everyone! Go me!

Now my icon is looking at me severely and suggesting maybe it's time for bed. Ack! Unintended overtones! Not Mary Sue! Or self-insertion!

Re: Loving your icon

Date: 2005-08-26 02:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] green-grrl.livejournal.com
Mmmmm... googly-eyed and whining at each other -- just the way I like them right before they jump on each other for the mad frottage. Friction burns ahoy!

Aaaah! Hammond/Very Secret Diaries crossover! Mommy, I'm frightened. (Daniel's still the prettiest. Jack will kill Hathor if she touches him.) Aaaaaah! It's contagious!

Dude, it is your LJ. You insert yourself right into bed with J/D if you want to -- I know I would!!! *distracts God for you*

Date: 2005-08-31 02:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angiepen.livejournal.com
I vote for "George" when you're in Hammond's POV. Everything sounds weird until people get used to it. If there's enough verbage in Hammond's POV then people will get used to it, and if there's not then it doesn't matter anyway.

Also, there's no reason to have the second apostrophe in "de-goa'uld'ed" so kill it. :)

And, umm, no, I don't think there's a [livejournal.com profile] hammond_daily. :P Unless you want to start one...? [grin]

Angie

Hush, you!

Date: 2005-08-31 02:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
there's no reason to have the second apostrophe in "de-goa'uld'ed"

Fie on you and your punctuation/spelling comment! *snert*

I think any hammond_daily should be called HammondofTexas... And I've done enough things lately to make people think I'm on drugs. And I swear, there's an ice cream-based Dark Muse-type story on the way. I start Hammond_Daily, and the men in white jackets will be waiting by the door in the morning...

Re: Hush, you!

Date: 2005-08-31 06:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angiepen.livejournal.com
Fie on you and your punctuation/spelling comment! *snert*

Hey, just doing my part to stem the horrible epidemic of Apostrophe Abuse sweeping through the English-speaking world. :P

Angie

Re: Hush, you!

Date: 2005-08-31 09:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brainofck.livejournal.com
So, what happens during apostrophe abuse? Sounds very naughty...

Re: Hush, you!

Date: 2005-08-31 10:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] angiepen.livejournal.com
Nah -- not naughty, just messy and annoying. Hell, if it were naughty I wouldn't object. ;)

Angie

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