How I became a pervert

[brainofck]

I was a pervert from a young age.



Per IMDB, Starsky and Hutch was on 1975 til 1979? Well, my first slash experience was watching Starsky and Hutch, so I was 8 or younger. One of them made some comment about how they were like an old married couple, and the other one made some comment about not even knowing if the first one was a good kisser or not, and then looks were exchanged and I can't remember how it finished, but I am wondering if they actually kissed? Can't remember. Seems like I would, but it's been a long time and I probably only saw it once. Anyway, I got that it was a joke, but my pre-adolescent brain went "Huh?" Then "Hmmmm." I got that they were being sort of grown-up naughty, and I probably had a hazy idea that it was kinda sexy, though I was 8, or whatever, so it couldn't have been that clear to me. (I suppose I could have been slightly older if I saw it in reruns.)

So then I didn't have any slashy thoughts for a long time. Totally bypassed Star Wars. I was all about Leah and Han.

Then there was 21 Jump Street. Not only slash here, but (unwritten) fanfic of the Dark Muse variety. Ah. She was with me even back then. Such a pervert.

Somewhere in there was Battlestar Galactica. Apollo and Starbuck.

So then, Lord of the Rings. As with I imagine lots of people, LOTR was the big slash realization.

My first knee-jerk reaction was how could people take Sam and Frodo's deep friendship and twist it like that. It's not always sex, people! There's deep devotion, loyalty and love that has nothing to do with carnal desires.

And actually, I do still feel that way about the actual text. That's Sam and Frodo. Loyal, devoted to the end. But when Sam "comforted him with arms and body" or whatever the quote is, Frodo was starving, exhausted, dying of thirst, and his mind was being torn apart by the Ring. I seriously doubt Sam was, ahem, comforting him that way.

But I was intrigued, and very quickly found that I could reconcile fan fic with the actual intention of Tolkien. For me, I can accept them a separate venues. Tolkien wrote one incredible novel followed by two more books of amazing epic saga. That was one thing. People have taken the characters and the setting and done things with them that are fun and exciting and which can be enjoyed completely separately from the Professor's work.

So Sam and Frodo sucked me in, and it's all been down hill from there. Hobbit slash led to Merry/Pippin/Boromir and Library of Moria led to Closer than Brothers, and then Stargate slashed itself and that's what made me the pervert I am today!

You?

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[melayneseahawk.livejournal.com]

I'm ashamed to admit that my first slash fandom was probably Mulder/Krycek from X-Files (BDSM stuff, amusingly enough, but I shied away from that later and have only recently come back). I was in the (even more embarrassing) Sailor Moon fandom before, but Neptune/Uranus doesn't really count because it's text in the original Japanese, and badly edited out in the "butchered for Americans" version.

I moved on to Duo/Heero from Gundam Wing, but I'd been in the fandom for a while before I realised that I could ignore the canon pairs (more fool me).

Then I kinda drifted out of fandom for a while, and came back into the Harry Potter fandom shipping Remus/Sirius very, very hard. Actually, my first fic was R/S; before then I just read other people's stuff. Even so, I lurked for a good long while before writing anything.

I got into Stargate around the same time I started writing R/S, and I will ship Daniel/Jack to my grave (and it is always Daniel/Jack, because I said so). I wrote there much sooner than I had in HP, only because I spent a good three months downloading all the episodes and watching them, often three or four a day. *insert plug for Stargate Time (http://melayneseahawk.livejournal.com/151020.html) here*

[brainofck.livejournal.com]

Ah. X-Files. Here I have the LOTR dichotomy again. I could not abide when they wrote scripts that shipped Scully/Mulder, but I totally shipped them in my head. Mulder/Krycek, hmmm. Certainly a bold entry!

Funny, we watched the first 5 or 6 seasons of Stargate on DVD in about a month and a half, and then I wrote Possession. Immersion is a dangerous thing!

[melayneseahawk.livejournal.com]

Certainly a bold entry!

Oh yeah. Will it help if I note that it was an accident?

Immersion is a dangerous thing!

Indeed. I got a bunch of my friends hooked, too, so we all cackled over it together.

Does slash count as a perversion?

[amise.livejournal.com]

Comic books. Specifically the small indy comic The Desert Peach. I found it in college and loved it. The main character is(was? I'm not sure if it's still being produced) a gay German Army officer in World War II stationed in North Africa. One of the main secondary characters was his fiancee, a hotshot Luftwaffe pilot. They were gorgeous men and were very devoted to each other.

It really was that weird.

Anyways, the creator did a short story in an anthology several months after I started reading the comic. Being a completist, I bought it without knowing anything about it. Turns out, it was a PWP...with two hot, hot men. That was the first time I read anything with gay sex and OMG! My panties were set on fire!

It wasn't until I found HP fanfic and LJ that I realized that there are plenty of other women who dig guy-on-guy action. Hooray!

Re: Does slash count as a perversion?

[neotoma.livejournal.com]

Donna Barr is still working. It's not all Desert Peach, but you can see what she's doing now (http://www.stinz.com/), if you'd like.

Re: Does slash count as a perversion?

[amise.livejournal.com]

SWEET! I stopped reading somewhere around #26 because the book became too hard to find.

I don't know why I didn't think of searching on-line before. doh.

[lt-kitty.livejournal.com]

I usually say that my first slash pairing was Q/Picard on TNG. I was fascinated by the character Q, and I read everything online about him, including a couple of essays by Atara Stein on Q as a queer icon. My first reaction was to be disturbed by these weird people who insist on seeing gay sex in every profound relationship between two men... but I couldn't get it out of mind, and eventually read every piece of Q/Picard fanfic written. And it really was the first slash pairing that was consciously sexual.

Really, though, I had two "slash" pairings before I even knew what sex was. At eight, one of my friends convinced me that Starscream was a girl - later we met the female Autobots and discovered that Transformers aren't physically androgynous, but I couldn't unpair Megatron/Starscream just because SS was *male*. And before that, when I lived in Japan and watched "Gatchaman," I was fascinated by the friendship between Ken and Joe, and thought there was something different about it. (This was also the beginning of my fascination with the "lovable jerk" character type, which continues even now) I was three.

[ribby.livejournal.com]

I started *reading* slash in college, with Highlander (Duncan/Methos), and then X-Files (Mulder/Krycek)... but I realized the other day that my love of slashy men goes *way* back to Apollo and Starbuck of Battlestar Galactica. Y'see, I loved them both to distraction (living in LA, I went to Universal Studios a *lot*, since there were always people who wanted to go--and until I was about 12, the first thing you went through on the tram was a Battlestar Galactica mock-up, with actors playing Apollo and Starbuck. *grin*), and whenever one or the other of them got a girlfriend, I got really mad, since they belonged to each other.

I think I was about 8 at the time. *grin*

But I didn't get into full-fledged slash until college when I fell in love with Duncan and Methos, and then with Mulder and Kryceck. And then came Jim and Blair from Sentinel... and then there were the Jedi. And finally, I fetched up against LotR, and here I remain (although I will admit to still reading the occasional X-Files, Highlander, and BSG orig series fic).

So really, what it comes down to is that Apollo and Starbuck made me the pervert I am today. *grin*

~Kris

[angiepen.livejournal.com]

My first slashy thoughts came with Trek Classic and not even from the fanfic itself. Long before I ever got to a convention where I could buy fanfic I got a book called Star Trek Lives which was about the Star Trek fan phenomenon and what about the show caused people to react as strongly as they did. (Great book, BTW; it's out of print but you can find used copies online.) There was a chapter on fanfic, with exerpts and synopses both, and it talked quite a lot about slash fiction. There weren't any entire stories in there but what was there was more than enough to get me thinking that this was a very cool idea. :D The first slash fiction I actually bought was Battlestar Gallactica, then a lot of Starsky and Hutch stuff, plus some Trek and some multi-fandom zines.

The first slash I wrote was some original stuff, back when I was posting stories on GEnie. The first fanfic slash I ever wrote was Viggorli, just a few years ago; it was for here on LJ and is the first post in my journal, below some general introductory blathering.

The first fanfic I wrote was a het Trek novel, which actually didn't have all that much sex in it 'cause I was more into plot even back when I was thirteen, but it did qualify as darkfic in places (with rape, even) so you're not the only one who started out as a pervert when you were young. ;)

It's kind of funny, though, that my kinkiest writing has all been for RPGs. I tortured poor Palace!Johnny from beginning to end, just about every way I could think of [pats Johnny] and Citadel!Liam was majorly into bondage and Cit!Mickey grew up in a totally whacked family and has some severe sexual hang-ups because of it, but my solofic is pretty tame and often doesn't even have sex. [ponder] The closest I've gotten to really pervy stuff in solo fanfic has been "Menagerie," I think. [ponder]

Humm. Have to work on that.... :)

Angie